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of it anyways. number one, ayman al zawahiri, the long-time number two to osama bin laden, communicating with an organization that's considered even more danger, nasir al wahsyshi. he's experimented with exploding clothes, clothes impregnanted with explosives, not to hide bombs but clothes that are bombs. but this isn't about an exploding shirt. this is said to be, according to sources that talked to nbc news, something big, that the head of al qaeda ordered to do something at the end of ramadan and that's now. when they talked about that, larry, the u.s. government listened and that's what kicked off the biggest alert since 9/11. >> steve handelsman over the weekend, congressman peter king, very knowledgeable guy, he said they picked up specific dates, specific dates. do we know anything about that? >> reporter: what we're told, larry, is that the conversation, and it may have just been one, it's such big guys and they so avoid communicating and if there was just one conversation it's because of they communicated and because of who they were. and the communication we're told specified t
we set out to do. because of you, osama bin laden is no more. [applause] because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been hammered. the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the way to defeat. >> president obama with the marines this week. osama bin laden is gone, but his number two man is still around, and so is his personal assistant, who has planned an attack on american targets, leading to the closing of 19 embassies and the state department has ordered nonessential staff to leave the u.s. consulate and issued a travel warning. colby, the game is not over. >> the game is not over and it raises questions about the information that led to the decision and how we got it. it goes back to the mega-data that has been gathered. does it suggest there is value in what they have done? the activity that we have been reading about -- there is fruit from it that allows them to take the action they have taken? the threat has not gone away. >> how about this -- we do not want another benghazi? is that the message? >> it is clear part of the motivation was because of benghazi, the
the country's capacity for self inflicted damage must have astounded even osama bin laden and points out there is always a nightmare of acquiring use -- terrorists acquiring and using these weapons of mass destruction that nothing would give them greater satisfaction that we focus obsessively on the remote possibility and restrict our lives and our liberties accordingly. guest: i think this is always a difficult debate. i think if we step back and look at it, since 9/11, the united states even though we are one of the most open and free countries , has remained, frankly, open and free. we continued to have super bowl's and people travel abroad and robust trade with our allies around the world. so this type of limited action, i would use the analogy of it is like a hurricane. forecasting weather a potential storm and we're battening down the hatches and a few limited places. if the storm passes, great, but this administration is leaning forward and a way i think is professionally responsible and they are being advised not just by political advisers but also the cia -- one of my old agenci
office? osama bin laden was caught on tape saying he wanted to bleed america to the point of bankruptcy. -- -- if 250,000 people take that us and because of some poison in washington dc, it is our own overreaction that a self-destructing. security, a total budget of $40 billion, a lot of things combined into one -- we're not talking about that large amount of money. picture, -- you said, be aware of the bodies. if we hadn't stopped the time square plot, the london , there are three or fourth -- 3000 or 4000 people right there. there are any number of others that have been stopped. i wish the rest of the country would use the nypd as a model. there is so much done as far as cooperation between the government and suppliers and distributors and merchants so if somebody goes to buy explosives, devices,buys certain that is taken to the nypd and they can follow up on it. i would just say 3000 bodies is terrible, but that is 3000wide, when every year die in house fires in america. if there was a successful dirty bomb attack, it could neutralize an entire city. one dirty bomb going off in downt
-election campaign. >> al qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: and months into the second term. >> al qaeda is a shell of its former self. >> reporter: in light of benghazi and the terror alert, graham says far from it. >> after benghazi, the al qaeda types are on steroids thinking we are weaking and they are stronger. >> is it fair to say al qaeda is on the path of defeat? >> most people who cover these issues understand that al qaeda core is the afghanistan/pack stain base. there's no question the al qaeda core has been greatly diminished. we have made clear over the past several years aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is a concern. >> reporter: al qaeda core is evolving. the man leading aqap is believed to be al qaeda's number two in command. >> i think what we have seen particularly since the death of osama bin laden is a metamorphosis of sorts within al qaeda. >> reporter: the question is whether the new al qaeda has the capacity to pull off a 9/11 style attack. the closing of embassies, some that are like bunkers a reminder the terror network ca
the night of the osama bin laden raid. the grapevine is coming up next. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. >>> some fresh picks from the political grapevine. two years ago, seal team 6 moved into the compound where osama bin laden was hiding. president obama was playing cards. despite the pictures released by the white house of the president and his team in the situation room, former obama body man, reggie love, says the president turned to distraction to make it through tense hours. >> sat around in the private dining room kind of like -- most people were in the situation room. i'm not -- i can't be down there, i can't watch this entire thing. he, myself, and the white house photographer, marvin, we made -- must have played 15 hands, 15 games of spades. >> that was part of an interview love did last month at ucla, hosted by the artists and athletes alliance. the group had posted it online but has since removed it. >>> the new united states ambassador to the united nat
. obama and his administration love to brag about the killing of osama bin laden but they're not willing to acknowledge that osama bin laden is a product of the muslim brotherhood. president obama went to egypt in 2009 right at the beginning of his presidency to talk about religious tolerance and how we all need to live together and egypt was the gateway to the muslim world for a better relationship and now that christian churches are burning he's not standing up for christianity in the way that he should be. >> let me show you something. i should have thought of this earlier. this is from "the blaze" today. this is john kerry today. that's john kerry. he's kite boarding. do you ever go kite boarding? i don't even know what that is. there is our secretary of state. he's kite boarding and president of the united states is out there swinging a golf club every two seconds. >> don't forget in this day, the president can sign a law in boston. he can sign an executive order in california. he can sign a law -- so when he brings with him an entire apparatus when he travels. >> egypt is burning a
to the dramatic move. turns out, it wasn't just an intercepted message between sth man who replaced osama bin laden and the yemen leader. there's a leader of al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and what we had heard before is that there was a call between the two. but now we're hearing something different. in fact, it's an exclusive report that we're getting today that perhaps more than 20 al qaeda operatives from around the world were on some sort of conference call and we were able to listen in on that. one of the reporters who broke that story is joining us now. john is the senior correspondent for national security and politics for "newsweek" and the daily beat. i don't want to ruin your story but tell our viewers what they need to know about this supposed conference call. >> right. so we know that u.s. intelligence has been monitoring multiple threat streams and multiple communication streams between al qaeda's core leadership in pakistan and their associates in yemen but what we're able to report new today with that, the call that actually led the worldwide terror alert and the closing of
succeeded osama bin laden zawahiri. the two men reportedly agreed that they wanted to do something big. timed to the end of the muslim holy month of ramadan which is right now. and that's what led the united states to close 19 embassies. there they are on the map and consulates in the mideast and africa. there's still a lot that remains unknown including which target. over the weekend, one thing clear from every lawmaker and official with knowledge of the attack, nobody's crying wolf here. this is one of the most serious threats in years. >> been an awful lot of hatter out there, chatter means conversations among terrorists about the planning that's going on, very reminiscent of what we saw pre-9/11. this is the most serious threat that i've seen in the last several years. >> we need to know and realize we're living in an increasingly dangerous world and this many specific threat that we've been briefed on over and over again has reached a new level. >> i must say this is probably one of the most specific incredible threats i've seen perhaps since 9/11 because of the specificity, becau
osama bin laden to the others, before they joined and formed al qaeda. guess which group they belong to a? the muslim brotherhood. ladies and gentlemen, i'm here to tell you that the muslim brotherhood is the gateway drug to islamic terrorism. if you want to understand this mayhem and why we are up against against the wall with the war on terror come along strangle him the existential struggle to judeo-christian, i'm sitting in the capital they do not like like to hear that into this at a premium. but that is what is going on. if you want to understand what we're up against, you have to understand this group. it started with them. it looked to be very politically incorrect and i have plenty of theological emma to back up their ideology matters of fact. so the founder is crestfallen and deflated that the group has collapsed. the caliphate. picture every muslim nation economically, politically, militarily, speaking with one strong voice against israel and america. controlling a good supply of the world's oil and perhaps if things keep regressing or regress in the way that they have bee
run it directly by osama bin lot in. that was it my first book. this was dominated by the princeton she hoffman dash desist today he is as hot as he has ever been. he is behind the benghazi attack of the hostage attacked in algeria and he got were seized president elected egypt to tell the brothers in egypt you better elective. this is as contemporary as it gets but now we go back 20 years no one knew the guys use is the very done and, to shoot the rabbi and runs out of a. . . their high world buildings and a blinking light flashing at the trade center could not have been clear what was in the works with this sale. they also found top-secret material with a case from fort bragg. holy cow. ali mohammed. no sir tried as a lone gunman peering even though they find him in a house he is tried as a lone gunman. now that all happens and to give you a background youssef explodes the bomb in 1993. there is evidence the fbi could've done that. who is in a cell in manila with ham? m.? collegiate mohammed his uncle a guy named -- who becky bin laden loved in a couple bin laden's brother-in-law.
in new jersey. that kid is stuck with that. or osama bin laden or sean hannity. these are horrible names! >> sean hannity, that is not fair. >> all kidding aside, one quick thing, i know stephanie wants to jump in. in tennessee, turned statute of child abuse, it includes not just physical abuse, but imminent mental abuse. if you're going to name your child messiah or a worse name, a more challenging name, the child live withes it, not the parent. they think it's cute and fun. your kid has to go every day with that and get beaten up or ostracized from society. that's wrong. >> stephanie, dean makes a point. but dean, messiah is number four among fastest growing baby names in this country. so there are lots of messiahs running around. so, you know, when a judge -- forget the judge's rationale. even deecan's rationale, does i add up that the name would be some insipient child abuse? >> well, a worm hole has opened in the universe yet again in that i agree with michael. >> i was -- >> the judge -- the judge is clearly overreaching here. you know, sadly there is no law against being an idioti
as sunday, august 4th. wuhayshi who was once the personal secretary to osama bin laden runs the yemen-based branch of al qaeda that has proven to be the most agress any of plotting against the u.s. his group, aqap is home to an explosive expert who over the past two years has targeted u.s.-bond airplanes with bombs hidden inside of underwear. and computer printers. aqap has been battered by drone strikes. deputy commander saeed al shihri was killed earlier this year. but counterintelligence officials warn that aqap remains dangerous and capable of inflicting serious damage. while u.s. officials were stunned that veteran al qaeda leaders broke operational security by openly discussing intelligence plots, the intelligence remains incomplete. analysts who worked throughout the weekend still can't say when, where or how an attack may be carried out. so the u.s. has been forced into a blanket defense across north africa and the middle east, 19 u.s. diplomatic missions will remain closed through saturday. and while there is no indication that terrorists are targeting the u.s. mainland, secu
in afghanistatn and pakistan is on the way to defeat. >> president obama with the marines this week. osama bin laden is gone, but his number two man is still around, and so is his personal assistant, who has planned an attack on american targets, leading to the closing of 19 embassies and the stat department has ordered nonessenential staff to leave te u.s. consulate and issued a travel warning. colby, the game is not over. >> the game is not over and raises questions about the information that led to the decision and how we got it. it goes back to the mega-data that has been gathered. does it suggest there is value in what they have done? the activity that we have been reading about -- there is fruit from it that allows them to take the action they have taken? the threat has not gone away. >> how about this -- we do not want another benghazi? is that the message? >> it islear part ofof the motivation was because of benghazizi, the embarrassment, e fact the sto will not go away and we dnot have explanations as to why the warnings were ignored, etc., but there is a larger problem in that al qae
on the people who actually attacked us on 9/11. today al qaeda is on the run and osama bin laden is dead. >> there are reports, too, the leader who replaced osama bin laden has given two speeches saying the muslim world needs to unite, said he disagrees with the u.s. policy going on in egypt as well. also, this is the 27th day of ramadan, also known as the night of power, the time when moham d mohammed -- if you're a believer, when mohammed got the first versus for the koran. >> the massive prison brakes across the region. >> not everybody believes al qaeda is on the run. >> apparently al qaeda doesn't agree. they strung more than 1,000 people from prisons in various countries. >> last week. >> 1200 prisoners in a single break. >> benghazi. >> how do you do that? >> a massive one at abu ghraib prison in iraq, too. here is the general on the al qaeda threat that we face. >>. >> certainly after 9/11 we clearly had al qaeda on the run because we responded to quickly to that threat and intercepted a lot of other threats and killed a bunch of leaders in the process. they have had time to reg
think that's been the situation since well before osama bin laden and his key deputies were killed. al qaeda and affiliated similar networks continue to grow around the globe. jenna: speaking of the president, we have a sound bite from a little more recent than last year talking about the war on terror and one of the president's big speeches about foreign policy. let's take a listen to that. i'll get your reaction. >> today osama bin laden is dead and so are most of his top lieutenants. our homeland is more secure. a few of our troops are in harm's way and over the next 19 months, they'll continue to come home. our alliances is strong and so is our standing in the world. we are safer because of our efforts. jenna: that's what our viewers have heard from the president. this is the paradigm that the president was describing to us. no large scale attacks, yet we're seeing the shutting of our embassies overseas, we're told not to travel for at least another several weeks and this is all moving up until the next anniversary of 9/11. so what should we think about our safety? >> look. i have
been killed or captured and for of them successor of osama bin laden and that remains at large. in a strange day in the court martial of the fort hood gunman. the stand by attorneys for nidal hasan said if hasan wants the death.they should not have to help him as much as they have been thus far. we'll talk about it with the former prosecutors and defense attorneys. great to have you here. it sounds like hasan's attorneys who are helping him because he is representing himself believe he is actively trying to get the death.and they want no part of it. so can they recuse themselves or whatever the words for this? >> i don't see basis for it. the way it is going forward is unusual, i do agree with. that but the attorneys to take a position that they simply can't participate in this. i don't think it is a great argument to make. the reason i say. that attorneys help all of the time in individuals pleading guilty to something they did. that is what hasan is doing here and there is nothing unethiccal. all they are required to do is make sure the evident is support. it >> he was not al
truck bombings. it also marked the first time many americans ever heard the name osama bin laden. of course, september 11th is a critical date not only for the 2001 attacks on america but also the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi, libya, one year ago. the state department says it's closing 21 u.s. embassies and consulates on sunday out of an abundance of caution. one official telling us the shutdown could be extended beyond sunday. here is our senior international correspondent arwa damon. she's outside the american embassy in cairo. >> reporter: behind this wall is one of the roads that leads to the u.s. embassy in cairo. normally the embassy would have been open on a sunday. it is a working day here. it will, however, be closed because of those security concerns. in the past there have been demonstrations here. there have been mobs, angry mobs, who have gathered trying to attack the embassy. september 11th of last year, for example, an incensed crowd, angered over the film that insulted prophet mohammed, tried to attack the embassy and it was the same day we saw th
to hear from the perpetrator himself. other than the occasional video from osama bin laden and the like, often those who commit horrific acts are kept from the lime light and disappear forever, like the aurora shooter or the boston marathon bomber. but today we all got a long, hard look at evil. we heard man, ariel castro, who pleaded guilty to unspeakable crimes to three young girls and their children. he tried to apologize, federal budget after -- even after he l distinct impression he didn't do anything that wrong. >> i have an addiction, just like an alcoholic has an addiction. alcoholics cannot control their addiction. that's why i couldn't control my addiction, your honor. these accusations that i would come home and beat her, beat them, those are totally wrong, your honor. because, like i said before, i am not a violent person. i'm not a violent person. i simply kept them there without allowing them to leave. >> it reminded some of us of that famous phrase, the benality of evil. and while what castro said today was infuriating and what he it was incomprehensible, you might not th
on terror is over. osama bin laden was killed, and he was killed. but the bottom line is you can try to kill al qaeda or any other groups like this vertically but they are greg horizontally while we're sleeping, and they're -- let's connect the dots. they're growing on the ground, growing on the internet, on social media groups. they have a magazine, al qaeda has a magazine called "inspire" we learn about through the boston bombers, learning how to make homemade bombs. they're encouraging lone wolf attacks and the old-school group is still continuing to plan bombs and the new school or younger followers are now trying to recruit other followers -- >> neil: apparent live a lot of -- apparently a lot of them. one thing we discovered in the last few week wes had the prison breaks, hundreds of al qaeda types in and looks like locusts throughout the region and they're angry, they're jazzed, they want to do something. and -- what do you think? >> isn't it curious that some of bin laden's stated goals were to overthrow what he called the corrupt regimes in the region, expel the infidels from the ho
, just a year ago, boasting, al qaeda is on the run, osama bin laden is dead, and now an unprecedented closure. >> it's ab -- a giant win-win for them. i told you we should be doing spying like bush and cheney said, and i told you al qaeda is weak. the flip side is, it's obama, all he ever does is set himself up to get hiss a kicked by fox news, by trying to appease them. that's five years straight we have seen that play back over and over again. >> yeah, and the crazy part is, i love how they continually say obama is weak on terrorism, when he just continues the exact same policies of the bush administration. but as you said, like obama will try to appease them, and it will never work. they will always spin it. >> yeah, there's no winning with fox news. go ahead. tommy. >> it's what bush did only better. obama actually rained hell fire down on terrorists. people in this country need to take a look at fox and say you know what, these guys need to shut the fox up. because i remember when they were complaining that he was killing too many terrorists. so just shut the hell up. we would be
made that announcement on al qaedas' web site. he was reported by an aid to osama bin laden and became the ahead of an affiliate after he tunnelinged out of a prison in yemen. the terror leader did not say how he would free those imprisoned members but al qaeda has claimed responsibility for simultaneous raids on two iraq prisons, reportedly setting free more than 500 inmates. his us replacement were also part hoff the intelligence that caused the u.s. to close 19 embassies last week, but the one in yemen re-opened yet. -young -- robert young understands the situation. >> civil war started in the mid-'90s in the northern and southern part broke away and battled way. we're getting involved in a tribal conflict, much like you see in pakistan, under the guise of fighting terrorism. so of the 600 people we killed, just with drones. only 50 of those would we classified as terrorist. so there's a lot of killing going on in the air and on the ground. >> shepard: explain more how this works and what the end game is. >> well, right now, we're faced with a core group of people from saudi arabia
the terrorism culture. i am against osama bin laden, i am against al zawahiri, i am against nidal hasan, i am against boston bomber. >> do you think islam is a religion that promotes terrorism in. >> no comment. >> he said he wishes that the boston bombers and nidal hasan had seen his film because he said his film would have convinced them not to carry out their terrorist acts. he also said he's working on a book. and now we're just learning the air force has failed a safety inspection. barbara starr joins us with more. how badly did they fail and how dangerous is this? >> reporter: it is a problem, no mistake about it, jake, for the u.s. air force. this is an air force wing in montana, about 150 minuteman interintercontinental ballistic missile. they will not tell us exactly what "tactical errors" were made that led to the fail mark on the inspection. they say the nuclear weapons were always safe. but, jake, this is the second of three wings, there's only three nuclear wings in the u.s. air force, two of them so far this year, this is number two, have failed security and safety inspections,
for airing osama bin laden's anti-american videos after 9/11. the network's executives are well aware of its perception problem but they say that's going to disappear once you see their programming and they have been aggressively hiring high profile american journalists and opening bureaus in cities around the country. joining me to discuss the latest player in cable news here in washington, michael calderone, media reporter for the huffington post and edward fell 17 thaul, managing editor for time.com. welcome to you both. >> thanks. >> before we start, i should mention that al jazeera also accepted our invitation for both its interim ceo and its president of news to join us today, but then it cancelled. so moving on here, edward, let me start with you. there's so much competition now in cable news, including planned or already on the air networks from china, russia, univision with abc, fox just started a sports network. is there room for another news network? >> i think it's a great time to launch. just this week vice, which used to be a canadian music magazine was valued somewhere close t
the intelligence tracking of osama bin laden. the raid it claims was guided by a group of satellites in space which pointed dozens of separate receivers over pakistan to collect a vast amount of data as the mission takes place. without that agents were only 50 percent sure of bin laden's whereabouts with that raid happened. exclusive new video you will only see on fox news. it provide a really clear insight into a look at the fort hood shooter before the massacre. bearing an fbi logo and sub titles he gave a presentation at the walter reed medical center in washington in june 2007. it was called the koranic world view as it relates to muslims in military it was provided to the defense as part of a discovery process in the fort had case. correspondent cath ridge herridge has the details. >> it is unknown what the entire video shows in the segment he is asked about martyrdom and the number of virgins in paradise provoking nervous laughter in the audience. >> it's there. there's a lot of virgins, it's heaven. it's heaven. >> in the video he presents a power point presentation where he lays out recomme
issues. look at the fact he took down osama bin laden. however, this is an issue, peter, that continues to dog this president, of course, snowden was offered temporary asylum in russia. these are things that are going to overshadow the goals president obama mapped out for his second term, including immigration reform, which right now seems like a huge up hill batter. peter? >> thank you. >> thank you, peter. >>> despite the possibility of security forces dispersing the entrenched protesters. thousands hunkered down in two separate sit-in sites in cairo. more than 250 people have been killed since morsi was removed from power by the military on july 3rd. meanwhile, american embassies in egypt and 17 other countries across the middle east and africa reopened sunday. that terror threat, linked with al qaeda triggered the decision to shut the embassies a week ago. the u.s. embassy in yemen remains closed. peace of mind is important when you're running a successful business. so we provide it services you can rely on. with centurylink as your trusted it partner, you'll experience reliable upt
the state department has issued a worldwide travel alert for americans, it's the first since osama bin laden was killed. it warns terrorists may elect to use a variety of means and weapons and target both official and private interests. that warning in effect through august. security is also being increased across the u.s. out of what authorities are calling an abundance of caution although they say there is no specific threat to the homeland and joint chiefs of staff general martin dempsey says the threat is specific and serious. >> a significant threat stream and we're reacting to it. >> is the threat to employee up an embassy, a consulate or something else? >> that part of it is unspecified, but the intent seems clear. the intent is to attack western, not just u.s. interests. >> now, the focus is on the al qaeda branch in yemen where experts say the terror group is on the rise. we have complete coverage for you. nbc's kristen well kearse at the white house and nbc news foreign news correspondent richard engel is in cairo. what's the latest there. >> reporter: i'm still struck by that map
-zawahiri was second in command now first in command because osama bin laden has been killed. apparently he was having communications with the leader of al qaeda's arabian peninsula affiliate. a gentleman named nasiral wuhayshi. that is what fox news has been able to confirm, what originally set off the fear there was a major and imminent attack underway. i think what's become more scary, judge, is yesterday during the press briefing with jay carney, the president's spokesperson, he would not rule out the fact this could be on united states soil as well. >> i hate when they do that. they shouldn't scare people nedlessly. first of all, anything is possible and anything is potential. the question is is it more likely than not. the two pictures on the skraoeb, when the white house -- on the screen, when the revealed they were having communication with each other, and i'm glad they have it, we've declared war on it, they are in charge of that organization, they're not americans, they have every right to listen to them, did the white house reveal what we know about them in order to justify the president sp
been issued since the u.s. braced for retaliation after american special operations killed osama bin laden two years ago. this time, multiple sources tell nbc news the threat originates from yemen from a plot by al qaeda's branch in the arabian peninsula. the suspected target or targets are not just american diplomats in embassies, but western interests in general. we're told the threat is credible, serious and time for now the tail end of ramadan. the location is believed to be in yemen, but some u.s. officials worried plotters could try to strike beyond that country and initiated a blanket, catch-all response. >> this is a serious threat, but it should be noted in light of what happened in benghazi that officials are taking no chances whatsoever. >> reporter: so why al qaeda in yemen? it has a core group of skilled bomb makers and propagandists who operate in areas where the government has little authority. the group is motivated and aggressive and under attack. last month one of the top leaders was killed in a drone attack. the group wants revenge. but when? u.s. officials have to
to osama bin laden in pakistan directly to the top al qaeda official in yemen or whether it was more of a roundabout relayed communication. in any event, regardless of how it was constructed, it's the wording that so alarmed officials in which the leader of al qaeda in pakistan has basically given the order or approval of what the two are believed to be saying is a significant event, a big terror attack that would have significant strategic consequences, as the way they described it. and that is what has led to all the changes that we've seen in the past several days. >> let me play, pooeete, what congressman peter king said on "morning joe" this morning. >> this one was so precise as to the nature of the attack. there were some dates given in there. the sources were so credible that there's no doubt -- >> all the threats overseas, right? no domestic threats? >> no, i would not say that. it does not say where the threat is going to be. it could be anywhere in the world. >> anywhere in the world, pete. we know that. back to this intercepted communication, how was this information made
is never going to retreat from the world. we don't get terrorized. because of you, osama bin laden is no more. [ cheers ] >> because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been hammered. >> over overnight in yemen which is on high alert the u.s. conducted its sixth punishing drone strike in ten days. the yemeni government said six suspected al qaeda members were killed. 29 suspected al qaeda terrorists have been taken out by u.s. drones in the past ten days. new throats from al qaeda forced the evacuation of the u.s. embassy in yemen. among those outposts shut down through at least saturday by terror concerns. i wan
was a personal visit to osama bin laden. >> i've heard of him once or twice. part of the interest in a book like this, other than it bag great read, is the sort of fear and fascination with terrorism. do you feel like that fear is still as great in the population today as it was, say, ten years ago? >> it seems to be because we're seeing a new kind. they call it the clean skins. these are young men who the counterterrorist forces have never heard of, like the ones who did the boston bombing and the two nigerians who butchered that off-duty soldier in london. these are guys who seem to convert to insane, perhaps, certainly homicidal extremism, where even the drone can't penetrate. they are dangerous because there's no reported of them. they're just not on file. if they're on file, then, yes, usually if there's some big conspiracy involving chemicals and things, then yes, the counterterrorism forces intercept them, get a whisper, someone talks or sneaks. they have agents. when it's just one guy deciding, i am going to go and kill for allah, you can't do anything about it until he strikes. >> when
, when you hear the word courier and al qaeda you think of the capture of osama bin laden, a physical courier driving the car that they were able to follow, so we've heard about this before. but this is an electronic trail, that's how they were able to find this. how do they do it? >> so, here's what happened, after a seven-hour internet conference between all of these leaders, the details of that conference, the minutes of it, were given to this courier and he then took it and tried to send it around to a greater distribution list inside the al qaeda community. when he did that, he made some mistakes in his open ratiration security and they were able to catch the mistakes and track him and with the help of the yemeni authorities pick him up and capture him and when they got him they found a video of the entire seven-hour conference call along with a host of all other sorts of goodies about what al qaeda was up to. that is exactly how we found out about the worldwide terror threat that prompted the embassy closings. the courier himself is still in custody somewhere in yemen being held
with we may have taken out osama bin laden and decimated a good part of the central command of al qaeda, we must continue to realize and we tend to forgot that these franchise cells throughout the middle east have proliferated and it's extraordinary important for us to understand why that threat is diffused for that very reason. >> let's talk about one of those cells. we keep hearing about al qaeda in the arab peninsula. they have an incredibly skilled bombmaker. what else can you tell us about them and how they might be involved? >> it's unclear at this point. there were tli drone strikes in yemen five days last week and a lot of activity going on there. they tried to carry out the 2009 bombing of an airliner flying in detroit that was an underwear bomb. there is increasing sophisticating from that in yemen. problems in yemen troops have been sort of not fighting. they have been rebelling against the government. i think yemen is a real challenge for the obama administration. they have tried to use drone strikes there. they have tried training and it has not worked well. i think they mi
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